The Industry Standard - Firefox 3 out of beta by summer - Comments

Mozilla announced today that

Eric Hill812251 — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:25:53 -0700

Mozilla announced today that the date is June 17 assuming nothing goes wrong. This seems like a done deal, frankly.

Looks like official release

David Kuan — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:47:33 -0700

Looks like official release is imminent before June 21st. Easy money now.

RC3 was just released. Only

Bradley Baker — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:49:47 -0700

RC3 was just released. Only changes were to the OS X version.

@Bradley T, I would think

David Kuan — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:38:24 -0700

@Bradley T, I would think the video (for feature preview of Firefox 3) was made days prior to the posting on June 6.

Excerpt from http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2478

"During the team’s weekly conference call today, Mozilla lead developer and phenomenologist Mike Beltzner said the RC2 code will freeze on Wednesday, May 28th, be sent out to build on May 29th and likely made available during the first week of June.

Firefox 3 is currently scheduled to ship during the second week of June. Although Beltzner acknowledged that cleaning up the remaining bugs will delay the final ship date by five days, he claimed that other groups within Mozilla gave his team a ”green light” to ship the final code in the second week of June anyway so there is little material impact on the web brower’s actual ship date."

@Franktisek, I believe what

David Kuan — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:03:32 -0700

@Franktisek, I believe what you got was Firefox 3.0 RC2

It is out of beta right

Frantisek malina — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:05:17 -0700

It is out of beta right now!
My Ubuntu just loaded the Firefox 3.0

Feature preview of Firefox

Bradley Tinney — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:55:48 -0700

Feature preview of Firefox 3:

http://people.mozilla.com/~beltzner/overview-of-firefox3.swf

He says "a couple of weeks in June" being posted on June 6. It's going to be really close for that June 21st deadline.

RC2 was released yesterday,

Eric Hill812251 — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:04:01 -0700

RC2 was released yesterday, June 4. One would think the final release would be imminent.

Mozilla's announced it's

Bradley Baker — Thu, 29 May 2008 11:07:40 -0700

Mozilla's announced it's definitely coming out in June. Only question is when.

Given the prediction was set 4 months out with 2 betas plus an RC between then and now, I'd say we're doing just fine.

Who WAS the brilliant mind who set the date so well? :)

I've been so gun shy lately

Eric Hill812251 — Thu, 29 May 2008 08:51:31 -0700

I've been so gun shy lately with prediction events taking longer than I would have expected, I can't help wonder if @Marc is right.

From

David Kuan — Thu, 29 May 2008 06:52:39 -0700

From http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/faq

When is Download Day?
Download Day will coincide with the general availability of Firefox 3. The clock will start ticking when Firefox 3 goes out the door! We don’t have a definitive date for Firefox 3 yet, but it should be in June.

So the question is ... will it be before June 21st?

OK, Bradley, now you know

Eric Hill812251 — Fri, 23 May 2008 19:17:30 -0700

OK, Bradley, now you know how hard this can be sometimes. ;)

I don't think they will

Marc Williams — Fri, 23 May 2008 15:43:09 -0700

I don't think they will release the product until the major plug-ins are out of beta and ready for primetime which at this point I'm betting will not happen by June 21st.

I would say that it's not

Bradley Baker — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:07:53 -0700

I would say that it's not enough to close it.

When I wrote the prediction suggestion I wasn't aware of this level between beta and full release. My understanding is that this is basically Mozilla saying "We THINK this is the final version, but just in case, bang on it a bit. If there are any showstoppers we'll try to get them fixed up. Once you've banged on it for a couple of weeks we'll declare it done and release exactly this." The idea is that, absent something really unexpected, the development is done and people can safely build add-ons without worrying about a change destroying their work. This is what will be released, but that release won't happen for another 2-3 weeks.

It should still be very safe money paying off well before June 21st.

That said, technically this is an official non-beta release and fulfills the definition in the prediction text. I'd still go with trying to interpret the final sentence of the prediction and say that this isn't an official product release, and therefore does not yet close the prediction (despite the fact that I've bet a bunch on this closing positively and certainly wouldn't mind getting the payout now rather than 3 weeks from now :) ).

@Bradley, is the Release

Eric Hill812251 — Mon, 19 May 2008 09:05:00 -0700

@Bradley, is the Release Candidate (thanks for passing along the judgment alert, Bradley Tinney) enough to close your prediction, or are you looking for Firefox 3 to be announced at the top-level page?

Firefox 3 out of beta by summer

Bradley Baker — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:07:19 -0800

The GA release is now expected for June 17th and has been confirmed. Just in under the deadline! --The Industry Standard

Mozilla released Firefox 3 beta 3 today (2/13/08) with 1,300 changes since beta 2. The Firefox 3 development process has been publicly ongoing since 2006, with beta 1 released in November 2007, and beta 2 in December 2007. A beta 4 has been announced for "some time in the next few weeks." No timeframe for full release has yet been set, with Developer Asa Dotzler stating that it will be released "When it's ready." There are still some outstanding issues with plug-in compatibility (Foxmarks, del.icio.us, Fotofox, FireFTP, and Yahoo! mail, among others). Will the bugs be worked out and will Mozilla officially release (non-beta) Firefox 3 by summer 2008?

This is a prediction that Firefox 3 will be officially released on or before June 21, 2008.